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But I did want to come on the occasion of the first Faculty Senate of this academic school year and also to share a few words.
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About the current moment and its impact on our community. I do regret that the current headlines might be distracting from the vital work that you do every day to advance knowledge.
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And transform lives. But let us remember that we need not and indeed we must not let the great work of generations of Spartans up to this day be obscured by this or any other individual's actions.
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We are defined by the collective achievements of our faculty and staff, students, and alumni who are the heart and soul of the university.
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Please remember that our process is shaped by federal requirements and by RVSM experts and has been improving over the years.
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When allowed to play out, I believe it isn't the it is the best way to serve everyone that is fair, thorough, and confidential.
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Let me also say that the process is not meant to hide misdeeds nor to protect the powerful. Rather, our guiding principles are equity and process and maintaining privacy for all involved to ensure the integrity of the case and to create a supportive culture around reporting.
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You've all worked so hard to prepare for the semester. And like you, I have had many opportunities to greet our students and feel the excitement of this new school year.
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And what I hear from them over and over time and time again is that they are here because of you because of the amazing impact you have on their lives.
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And in preparing and inspiring them for bright futures. Because of you, MSU moved up a full 17 places in the latest best colleges ranking from US News and World Report.
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That's a huge delta. I know there are new criteria for the measurement. But the underlying truth is that you have created a place where students can succeed and that's being recognized.
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This is the biggest one-year improvement for MSU ever, taking us to number 60. And among our public university peers, we're now tied for number 28.
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2 other recent rankings from Forbes and Washington Monthly place MSU among the top 25 public four-year colleges and universities in the country.
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We can feel proud about these recognitions. We should celebrate this excellence that stands on the foundation each of you build every day.
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So let me conclude by saying that I'm committed to processes that are enabling to this excellence within this community.
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To education around human interactions and to personal integrity. To reviewing all matters in the best way I can to walk MSU forward in our daily work.
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I want to thank each of you for that daily work. I want to thank the OI, Title 9 and Prevention Outreach and Education Teams as well.
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The heart of MSU will continue to beat and its spirit will continue to shine. So please keep doing your good and noble work bringing our university's mission to life.
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I'm grateful for your dedication to MSU and to all those in whose interests we serve.
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Thank you.
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I would thank the president if she was here, but I'll send her a video message saying thank you.
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On to new business. So our first order of business is the traditional semi-traditional orientation of faculty senate.
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And this, it has my name at the top, but really it will be, Tyler with me going, yeah.
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That thing or whatever else I can add in. At any given point. So Tyler is pulling up his PowerPoint.
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Wow, people can't hear me? That's usually not a problem. Is this better?
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Hopefully. Well, I just, I probably wasn't as close. Okay, I'll just yell.
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It's fine.
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Oh, that's it. The president was so loud that people turned down their volume. So now.
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Hopefully, I won't offend anyone. Now we are going to go through the introduction for Faculty Senate.
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A little bit of orientation. Let me repeat myself. All right, Tyler, are you ready?
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Tyler appears to be ready.
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Things are happening. I see it. All right.
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And what an introduction to faculty Senate it's been. Yeah. Again. I'll lead with, sorry, we are A, under staffed and be getting used to this for the first time and, What 4, 4 years or something?
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So. Next ones will be better, but I guess it's actually the only in person one on the schedule, huh? So, so far. Okay.
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We'll see how much. We peeked. I personally have been. Converted to.
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Not. Physical, which was, my stance before. But let's jump right into orientation.
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So the Hi.
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Sorry, Okay, so what are what are we doing here? What's what's the point of academic governance?
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Very basically the academic governance system exists to provide an effective system for the participation of faculty and students in the development of policy on academic matters.
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I come straight from the bylaws.
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Is a confusing system. That many people have tried many different org charts. None of them, I think, quite capture the All the complexities.
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This is the closest I think we've come. Kind of up at the top not necessarily in authority but practically as the steering committee, which steers.
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The various items that are working their way through academic governance to the different bodies. That's steering's roles to send stuff where it ought to go.
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Underneath that you have options like the university council, faculty senate and then of course the student governments ASMS you and cogs.
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Athletic council, number of advisory consultative committees, some ad hoc committees and a number of standing committees, Port University Council.
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Meanwhile, some other standing committees and faculty healthcare council. Report to Faculty Senate and there's the specifics.
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Of which is
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So you know, steering sets these agendas. And acts on behalf of them in emergencies.
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And is, you know, there was a
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Kind of movement a couple of years ago make make steering steer again instead of just preview all these presentations that we got here.
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Now they're really focused on getting things where they need to go. Make sure everybody's in loop.
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And that's made of the standing committee chairs, item 5 at large members. One of them is the Factory Center Chair, one of whom is FACT Senate vice chair.
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President Provost. It's actually just changed the EVPHS is officially on it.
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I am on it as a non voting member. And there's the president of cogs and a graduate student.
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And the vice president for economic affairs of A SMSU and an undergraduate student.
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Here we are at faculty senate. And our purpose, I think the chair. Summarized well in the beginning, but to to quote from the bylaws.
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It's the deliberative representative and legislative body for faculty. We discussed curricular shoes. Policy around 10 year in promotion.
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Salary and benefit comes through here. Now I should say when when I say that we do these There is often.
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Others involved, right? It might go through the University of Kenyan Vacti Affairs, for example, first.
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But we deal with salary and benefit issues and it's important to note the Senate. With very, I'm gonna say very few exceptions, just a hedge.
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I can't actually think of an exception off hand. I thought it went. OK. With some exceptions, there are certain committees that Faculty Senate gets to actually pick who goes on those.
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With exceptions like that. They, in fact, the Senate generally does not have the authority to. Do anything, right?
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It doesn't, nothing faculty does. Kind of binds anybody other than Faculty Senate. That is not the same as me saying there is no point to this.
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Why am I up here talking about the thing that doesn't matter. Not. It does matter. It's just important to note that it's it's more of an influence or a argument about, you know, it adds weight to arguments, faculty sentence.
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Position on things. More so than it is. You know, faculty senate. Decided this and now a bunch of people have to do something.
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Like I said, there's a lot of cross collaboration between. Back in governance bodies.
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It'll start in one work their way through and we'll weigh in on those. And more than any other body, Faculty Senate exists to.
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Particularly the opinion of the the faculty at large, right, unless Academic Congress weighs in on something and that's that's like everybody in their mother.
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This faculty center is kind of where. Faculty.
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It is composed of chairs while the college advisory committees. The elected representatives from each college. The at large members, standing committee chairs.
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President provost, EVPHS, me, and we have some friends from SMSU COGS Athletic Council and the faculty in there.
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And University Council is all a Faculty Senate. Lots of students undergrad and graduate. Lost a bunch of administrators.
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Felicity. And the details are on the right there. And it is there for sort of those issues that you know if you're in fact they send it the issue matters to you because it's faculty.
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You're discussing the university council, that issue is there because. It matters to you because you're Spartan.
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Right? It affects those bigger, broader things. Again, extremely representative with groups, people from all different groups, kind of everybody in the university here.
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They deal with bylaws amendments after the university committee on economic governance and deal with, yeah, they've probably brought us charge, right?
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All major issues relate to educational policy or any other matter pertaining to the general welfare of users.
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A lot of senators in the past have asked, they they've said they were confused and thought that we were asking them to keep some secrets.
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We are pretty much never. I actually can't have any difference. Asking faculty zone to like keep some secret source.
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Faculty senators are encouraged to welcome and and encourage to share. The materials with constituents get their opinions.
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All of these are public and online. I again I'm leaving a little wiggle room in case there is for some reason we might You know, ask that something stay in house, but.
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It will be very clear. So you'll free generally assume you're welcome to. And, did regular communication with constituents is key.
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We love to see things like Collegewide updates. We do the university wide one and if there's, you know, if senators want any help.
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Putting together something for a college version. We would love to help. And it's very important that faculty senators at least one of them.
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Be liaising with the college advisory committees. In fact, the advisory committees, as they're called.
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And. Yeah, just make sure that everybody's on the same page both internally extra.
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We're doing these meetings are recorded live streamed and occasionally transcribed so you can include those. Materials as well.
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So I have a question for the returning. Senators. Who in the room? I'll ask and zoom in a second, but in the room.
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Is anybody returning? We got one. I knew. Senator, right, do you have any, Hot takes about how you stay in contact with your constituents.
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He does not. Okay, let's turn to Zoom.
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Email.
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. Perfect
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Senator Allen in chat notes that she reports to CAC, shares with her committee. She's chair of UCFA.
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And shares in their faculty meetings. We saw last year I saw a couple people doing. Email, you know, college write emails, saw the faculty.
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If. That that can be great. Anyone else?
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See you now. CSC is always great, right? As people have mentioned.
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College e- but
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Okay, so I would hi you recommend being the bylaws at least once. I tried to do it like once every 6 months or so.
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That is definitely overkill. Don't do it that much. But. You, I mean, you know, once you'd be nice, it's not that long.
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It's like 35 40 pages or something. And there's a lot of white space.
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And if it can really help you understand what the rules the road are. Know where to go to. Get the the thing you're after, know who you need to connect to.
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And I would really recommend reviewing the faculty sense rule, Steering committees role, because you'll be hearing about that a lot.
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The attendance rules, just go over a little bit later. The purposes of the various standing committees, just because you'll hear them a lot.
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And then I'd also consider students rolling university council and actually not just university council kind of academic governance more broadly.
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It's actually a really interesting story for a different day. This isn't the interesting presentation. But there is an interesting story on.
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The history of how students came to participate in governance at MSU. There's drama like you wouldn't believe.
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There's just gonna be a Netflix series about it any day now. And it was hard fought.
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And it is worth, you know, looking at. They actually make up a full third of the voting membership of University Council undergraduates.
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So. Worth reviewing all of this. And yeah, I can. Gov. I'm a C. Dot.
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Edu slash bylaws. There's a PDF version as well as a web version.
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There's some kind of feedback.
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There was an issue with the live stream. Where they weren't getting it. And just sort of being turned on.
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Sound giving some kind of
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So our people, is that everyone hearing this okay or is it just? Senator Good thing, test. You're not getting anything?
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Oh, it's resolved, okay? Resolved? It's fine. Thanks apparently.
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I can't have size enough how badly I got converted off hybrid meetings in the last like 3 min.
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This is a, this is a new 1 point, but.
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One thing that you will find in the bylaws is a description of the modes of participation. These were invented in the late seventys to make clear within academic governance what kind of action we're doing.
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So the 4 modes are consultation advisory shared response ability and delegated authority and increasing order in in order of increasing committee power if you So when the bylaws will say, you know, this committee is responsible for consulting with the provost.
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And what that means is that on that issue, the provost consults, which means seeks the opinion of the individuals on the body.
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Right? It's each, the opinion of each individual faculty center. And who has the authority for the decision?
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The administrative provost in this case. Constitution is the only one where you're looking for just individual members feedback.
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We go pretty quickly to advisory where it's the, you're actually looking for the position of the committee, right, of the academic governance body.
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The same is true of shared responsibility, but what is different about advisory versus shared responsibility is that if committee has shared responsibility with an administrator and they can't reach an agreement about something.
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The 2 positions get communicated in writing to the next highest administrator for a decision. And then delegated authority.
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That means that the board through the president, etc, has gone. And given authority on a certain topic.
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To that committee and accept in exceptional circumstances that will stand. And so when you're thinking about actions within academic governance, it's helpful to tie them to.
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You know, giving feedback or whatever. We really try to use the modes participation just so it's actually clear what we want and what's expected.
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Yeah, attendance requirements. They used to be harsh. They are, I think a good deal less harsh now.
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Members can miss. So remember, everyone on Faculty Senate is also on University Council. Right.
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And there are also, so folks like our. Standing committee chairs are the chair of their committee and then they automatically become a member of steering, faculty Senate University Council.
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There are a lot of meetings in there. And so what we've decided was the best way to do it.
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Through a bylaw amendment last year in your form. You have to attend. You can only miss a total of 4 meetings between faculty senate.
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Or University Council. Rebecca, the Senate, but when you discuss the combination of.
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Rather than just automatically being kicked off. What happens if you reach that 4? That the COD advisory committee or the standing committee if it's a standing committee chair.
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We'll basically be told, hey. You have a representative, they. Alright, common. They they're over the limit.
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Do you want to vote to? Keep them basically. So it gives the people who put that representative there at the opportunity to Say, no, it happens, it's fine.
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Or fill somebody in. You know, get somebody in there. And.
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It's worth noting that if they aren't removed. Another absence basically triggers it again, doesn't reset.
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It's like, they missed another one even after you said it was okay, you know. We want to you know, encourage people to be here.
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And that's why it's important to note it's actually crucial to know you Do not need.
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It will not count against you if you send a substitute. And that's just any faculty member. Who it has the same.
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Eligibility in constituency. So base the long short of it is your college, someone in your college.
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And there's a form we'll go over on the website a little bit to do that. And Rebecca just put it in chat.
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Great.
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If you just can't make it. And you feel bad about that. I love the impulse.
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It was very polite of you, but if you're not sending a substitute, Actually just don't need to know.
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That's fine. Really though, you should send a substitute. That would be.
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Okay, I want to take you through the Academic governance website. Which I got Redesign.
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Last year and is. Still in the process of
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Just second. Gonna get it.
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Sue says in the chat, it's redesigned and much, improved. Thanks, Sue.
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I agree.
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So front and center, you've got the. Big upcoming meetings. Any updates? The tracking system.
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We have a nice little placeholder quote from the last chair. Just to inspire people and jack and I are still.
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Good. Getting our inspiration, but we'll get it to you shortly. You know, so scroll down and then any time.
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Isn't this just like the most transparent thing possible? Just right on the front page, you got the live stream.
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It's done, most times not running, but it's there. And down in the bottom, got some crucial ones if you don't know who represents so you can check.
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You gotta schedule. All faculty are already on the newsletter, but others can be too. You can, if you can't make a meeting, there's a substitute form.
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Right there at the bottom. Just let us know who it is. And it checks for things like It basically runs through the.
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Eligibility and constituency checks to make sure you're good. And then if there's an update about a committee membership.
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There's form for that too. Just let us know. Down here we have on. Wildly proud of this footer.
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We, like, these are the academic governance things. Is if you're looking for like a document where you're looking for, you know, a group kind of related to us.
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I think this footer. Better most. And then within resources, you have, so up at the top within resources, there is a There's an FAQ on writing resolutions, which we'll do with a little bit later.
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It's the best practices for it as well as templates that you can download. And a, form 2 suite them.
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There's also If you're ever confused about that acronym, someone just said. We just got dozens.
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Thanks for you. Other resources, if you forget. Your parliamentary procedure, which I very much doubt you will after the talk you're about to get.
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There are some resources here as well. And then you can always look at committees. The Senate and get.
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You know, your basics, meeting dates. And then information from. Information for each and the
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1 million examples. So once the video is up, it'll just go right under the relevant.
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And then last but not least, up here at the top right. On every page is submit an agenda item.
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You can use it to, there's a form that will help you. You know, sometimes there's a topic you want, but you don't actually know maybe how to.
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Go about it. It will help you get it in a work. I found a couple of times in using the website has been really useful for putting in a resolution.
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Following the templates for that for myself. I really didn't start doing that until a couple of years ago when I really started making trouble.
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And and the website is really really useful for that and of course consulting with Secretary Sylvester is always always good if you if you have any questions on that so the great, great resource.
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Well, thanks, Jack. You're welcome.
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Okay, question more another question for returning senators. What do you wish you'd known about faculty senate when you began?
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Anyone? Yeah, you gotta look on your face. I see it. Nothing.
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That's faster. I would say, coming to in person, I didn't know I'd have to do this and then I forgot that we were going to do this in person and then you broke it to me.
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So. There's one thing. I wish I had known when I started that I had to be here.
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Sorry, just that one. Any one in the chat.
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You wish you'd gotten my parliamentary procedure overview earlier. Well, Rebecca, I, or vice chair of Mel and You know, we're not getting a ton in the chat, but if you think of more, go ahead and add them.
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In the meantime, I'm happy to give the people what I know they're. They want and that is probably
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Thank you. Jamie has a good comment there. She was like, I wish. I wish I had a better understanding of our function when I started on Senate.
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So. Oh yeah, that's great. It's good what long did I address that? Me too.
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Senator Georgey has a good point that the Senate works mainly through resolutions. Yeah, that's you know, not always the case, but I think a lot of a lot of times the most efficient way to go through things, right?
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An ending point that you're working toward. I mean, it changes, but having a But a resolution is essentially just the.
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Position, you know, a document memorializing the position of the body. And so that's.
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A very common way to think.
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So parliamentary procedure. In general. Let's speed around this little bit because we're running a little short, but The basic principles were all here for the same rights that includes the chair, every member.
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All the same privileges. It is important that no one speak until they're recognized by the chair person.
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Just raise your hand. Important to always remember that personal remarks are out of order. You know.
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It's we're here about ideas, not people. And we should continue focusing on those.
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One keep on track right only one question or motion can be considered a time. And only one person can have the floor.
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You might hear, is there quorum? A lot. That's just making sure we have enough people here to validate do business.
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Half this one. Are there any objections? We'll go over. This in a little more detail later, but very briefly it just means.
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We want to skip ahead past the procedural steps. Anyone have a problem with us? Just doing it.
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If you do have a problem, what happens is if there's an objection, it just goes to And then, you know, is there is there a motion for that?
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Versus is there a second? It's just getting that. Action process in place.
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Okay, the Russian messing dolls of parliamentary procedure go like this. Motion second. Discussion.
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Vote. Right. Somebody moves, I propose XI move that we adopt resolution.
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Saying. Cats are good. Anybody can second that. You don't have to raise your hand, you just shout out second.
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And interestingly, Someone. The a seconder is not actually saying I Agree with the motion? They're saying I second discussing this in front of everybody.
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So if you're if you think something warrants discussion but you don't agree then we can't second.
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And then once discussion on the motion happens, You know, we discussed. And it's possible to try to be amended.
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If that happens, it falls the exact same thing, right? So there, there's a move motion for an amendment.
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Someone second it. There's discussion on the amendment and on the amendment only. And then you'd vote on the amendment.
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If it passes, you continue discussing it as amended. Or in the original film.
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And then there's about
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This is it in graphic form.
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Any of that can be skipped if the chair asks is there any objection to doing X? If there is injection, we don't skip it.
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We continue as usual. There's no direction, skip the step. So if it's you know, adjourning, for example, if it's really feeling like it's time to adjourn.
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Everybody's on board with that. Chair might say rather than going through a motion second process any direction to adjourn Okay, So you could skip the entire process with that.
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Somebody can make a motion could be second in through discussion and then it's very clear that this is gonna be unanimous or something, say.
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They might want to go in in the middle there and you know, skip it. But it really can be used at any point.
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And I can't. I can't. There's nothing wrong with objecting. It's okay to check.
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It just means you want to go through that good process. And that's fine. You really should go for 2.
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Chairs up here still taking the meeting and protecting all of your rights At least in many sense. Sure starts when quorms verified, keeps it moving along the agenda.
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Generally, Chair is going to call on people in the order they raise their hands. Some exceptions if the chair knows that Well, the first if no one's.
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If no one has spoken and the person who made the motion wants to, they get sort of first dips.
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The person, if a person's already spoken and somebody else hasn't, that other person should go first.
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And then if the chair knows that there's disagreement on an issue. The the general kind of try to alternate between those those views just to Keep it the discussion a little more life.
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They're there to encourage helpful input and to mediate conflict as well as to and you know not necessarily always in remarks and constants such but during the actual meeting.
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The the actual you know motion process. The chair is neutral. It's all should feel welcome to.
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Voice their opinion, make whatever action they want to take. And the chairs. Job is to make sure that the will of the majority is expressed while protecting the rights of minorities.
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I will try.
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Distribute the mineral the materials take minutes advise the chair and anyone else who asks on Parliament Cedar Deal with all the back end stuff.
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It's an academic governance thing and you're like, should I copy ACAD gov?
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Hey, want to. I mean, it's always nice for us to be in the know. Good for, Records keeping stuff later.
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If you want to reach out to me. Okay. Gov. At MSU.
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Dot com is definitely going to be the best way to do it because staff can help with that. If it's a confidential thing.
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My personal one too, but sending's the off email. It's gonna be best.
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You might know about friendly amendments. You should stop knowing about friendly moments. They're not real. They don't exist.
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Shouldn't do them. I want to talk about it again after the next 60 s.
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Okay, there's no such thing as a friendly amendment with who that even me Now you won't forget
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So that earworm will be with you all day. And hopefully all semester because Friendly moments, don't exist.
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I literally sort of don't even quite know what I would mean. Because all amendments are of the same tone and character.
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You're just saying, I want to change the, change the thing. Whether that's like a little bit or that's nothing.
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And the don't count.
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You know, Roberts rules FAQ is really clear. After something's been moved and seconded, it doesn't belong to the person who made emotion anymore.
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It belongs to the body.
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Another big pet peeve calling the question who was the singer, someone asks, I commissioned it.
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I can't remember his name. A big one calling question a lot of people think that if you're having discussions going too long presentation for an orientation is going too long.
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You can just call the question. And that means you go right to vote. That is not true. Nothing.
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It is the same as any other motion. If once you're recognized, it's your turn.
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You want to move to and discussion? You can do that. It needs to be seconded. But that motion is actually not debatable.
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It requires a two-thirds vote. But if 2 thirds of the body says, yep, we should quit discussing, it'll just be you'll move right to the.
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Vote.
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Finally, extensions will not be asked for. Will not be mentioned again because what is an abstention?
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It literally means To abstain from voting means not to vote, right? Roberts rule says that their members have a duty to vote unless there's conflict of interest.
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Because of saying means not to vote. I guess here's my. You'll got there's a vote people are asked 3 of them say yes to say no One says they abstain and one just that's their reviews to answer, keeps their arms crossed.
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How many people? We'll do. 2 people didn't vote. We could have.
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So they would say. So it doesn't actually matter that they said it. So proper procedures just not even bother asking.
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So we won't. It's also important to note that abstentions do not affect quorum.
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So the You know, if you have 3 yeses and 2 nodes and 10 people, there's like, yeah, 3 S's one no and 10 people abstain, that motion passed 3 to one.
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Don't like it? Finally, important note that comments should be directed to the chair person not to one another in the interest of keeping everything.
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Respectful. Highly recommend having the most recent version of Zoom before joining so that voting and just the experience generally works.
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If you're not speaking, please mute. And then when you think you muted, double check it.
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Because a lot of you didn't. Use the hand raise function if you want to speak. And you can begin to see the trippers and recognize you and it is best refer to each other as titles or by titles.
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So faculty senators are senator. At Chairperson lipson or the chairperson. Students are representative whoever and then others use their titles.
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Secretary Sylvester, the Secretary. And it would be great if you could rename yourself accordingly when you join.
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And that is the animal orientation. If there are any questions, happy to answer them. But we also have other stuff.
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Have a move on to that. Let's see. Are there anything, any questions in the chat?
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Doesn't look like it. Awesome. Well, it's because you have such a complete orientation.
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No one has any questions. It works. It was thorough. You have done it many times.
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Thank you. Secretary Sylvester for that. Now we will move on to the new 4.2.
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Which is a resolution regarding the presidential search.
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Senator Malloy.
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Okay. Yes. Thank you. Chairperson Lipton.
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Could you share the resolution? Do we have it available?
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Secretary Sylvester, do you have it? Oh, stay tuned.
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Or would you like me to if you don't have it? Okay, great. So I move to adopt a resolution reading the following.
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Whereas the statement on government of colleges and universities developed by the American Association of University Professors, the American Council on Education, and the Association of Governing Boards of Universities and Colleges in 1,966 Reads.
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The selection of a chief administrative officer should follow upon a cooperative search by the governing board and faculty.
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Taken into consideration the opinions of others who are appropriately interested and whereas the statement continues, the president should be equally qualified to serve both as the executive officer of the governing board and as the chief academic officer of the institution and the faculty.
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The president's dual role requires an ability to interpret to board and faculty the educational views and concepts of institutional, institutional government of the other.
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The president should have the confidence of the board and the faculty and whereas the university's history of presidential searches and turnover makes the quality search critical, therefore be it resolved that the faculty Senate believes the next president of Michigan State University should be a preeminent scholar, an accomplished academic, and an individual with substantial experience in leading a university administration and resolved that the search should continue for as long as it takes to identify such an
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individual. And should not be limited by arbitrary deadlines and resolved that the faculty calls on the Board of Trustees to commit to only selecting a president who has received the endorsement of the President's Church Presidential Search Committee and resolved that to trustees should not choose any president who did not receive the endorsement of a majority.
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Of the faculty on the Presidential Search Committee.
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Second.
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Is there a second? Several seconds. All right, discussion. Let me, see if I can see human beings here.
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Give me a moment.
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Or do you wanna you'll manage? Anyone who wants to be recognized?
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Chairperson Lipton, I think Senator Saint Charles.
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Charles. Yeah, just a sec here. Okay, Senator St. Charles, you're recognized.
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Thank you, Chair, Personal Liptin. I just wanna say, I think it's really important, for this resolution to be one of the very first things that we bring forward as a new Senate.
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There is a time in place for making concessions, but given everything that we've experienced as a community this past decade, we should not be settling on the qualities of our next MSU president, particularly for an arbitrary deadline.
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Academic specialist and faculty would never debate the importance of the MSU president possessing a strong organizational background, a fierce commitment to justice, diversity, equity, and inclusion, as well as the ability to strategically move between constituents with transparency.
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So I don't think that we should be debating that this individual has a possession of a strong academic background.
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It is just as important, particularly as we're moving forward with the 2,030 strategic goals.
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The academic specialist community comprises of individuals with expertise in teaching, research, advising, curriculum development and outreach.
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And I firmly believe that our next president should possess the same. We have seen examples where academic qualifications were seemingly not considered.
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If we look at Ben Sas at the University of Florida or Mitch Daniels at Purdue, even to our own backyard with John Ing.
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It is imperative that the board takes into account the voices of the multiple constituents that were appointed and selected for the search committee.
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And further, it is actually critical. That any candidate selected possesses a significant academic background. Thank you.
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Thank you, Senator St. Charles. Anyone else have any comments?
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Any further discussion? On this resolution.
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Hearing none, seems like we need to take a vote.
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Okay, so I guess we'll we'll do it in. Oh, wait. Oh, we have the.
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Senator Quo, you have a comment?
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Yes, yes. Thank you, Chair President Lefton. I'm just curious about the last, cloth saying the majority of faculty.
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Endorsement you define that and who are who are what's the composition of the search committee and what is the definition of majority here?
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Thank you.
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Senator Mallon, do you wanna comment on that?
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I will have to pull it up. I believe we have what, 4 or 5 on there?
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5. There are 5 members, 5 faculty members of the 29.
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Yeah, so, as you may be aware, we did try to get more faculty representation on the committee.
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I think there's currently 21 members of essential search committee and we we only have 5 but we feel that it's imperative that those that the faculty voice is heard and that may be our only opportunity to have the input into the presidential search.
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We want to make sure that at least the faculty who were selected have a say in who the president is.
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The, I think we were. If you want, do have a comment Thomas, do you wanna make a?
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Make a comment.
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I would like to see the wording again of the, to see how exactly is phrase because there are many people on the search committee who might be faculty but not faculty representatives.
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Senator D. Simone.
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Thanks to your person, Lipton. I just wanted to reiterate. What you said in the beginning that when we met with the Board of Trustees a couple of weeks ago, we did ask and they are considering that they go beyond.
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Just the faculty that are on the search committee and that there be another level. At which faculty. Are included perhaps when they get down to a smaller group of people.
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Thank you.
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That's some good context. Although we let's focus on the the resolution at hand and interim provost, I to ensure we have clarification on the language relating to the faculty that were chosen as faculty.
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Versus anyone else on the, on the, search committee that may be a faculty member.
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But holds it, is chosen by virtue of their administrative position.
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Senator Jesuit. Would, would you like to come to a microphone so people can hear you?
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It's deans primarily who are also faculty as well as deans. So, so Senator Jeswick, let me just restate what what you said before you got the microphone was that you you would prefer.
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In the IT. Senator. To, to include all, anyone with a faculty title as part of the group of the majority of faculty in that resolution.
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Yes.
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Right. And the reason why?
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Maybe that would be the. People would have, I think my inclination, the reason why I think that is that.
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At least the faculty who are serving in capacities as deans are able to think about things from a faculty perspective.
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And there are more of them. So. I guess that's my reasoning. Alright, thank you.
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Senator Wilson has a comment.
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Yes, so I do not agree with that. I think it should I would really I mean having served on a presidential search committee before I think it's very important.
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To get the faculty vote, faculty voice without the administrative hat. I'm actually in a also with associate dean and I think it's really important to have that faculty voice.
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It is a very small group. In terms of in terms of the overall number of folks in the search.
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And I think it is a very important group. And I think it's really important to have their voice.
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There's some politics in involved otherwise and I think I think I think it would be nice to have the voice.
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There's some politics involved otherwise and I think I think I think it would be nice to have the faculty involved otherwise and I think I think I think it would be nice to have the faculty alone and I think I think I think it would be nice to have the faculty alone and and focus this on those faculty representatives.
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Alright, and let me, recognize. Senator Allen.
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I'm going to basically agree with the last person that just spoke. Although I think these individuals who may have dual hats, meaning faculty in administration, are certainly capable of differentiating between their 2 roles.
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There's no guarantee. That they will and To that end, I also agree that it is important to have a faculty voice.
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As a faculty voice without that other quote unquote hat. So I agree with the previous individual and disagree that we should consider all faculty.
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Including faculty that haven't been a significant administrative role.
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So There are no further comments. 1. One question is, is someone proposing to amend this resolution slightly?
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To include. Specific definition of faculty.
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Senator Tessmer.
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I'm not sure. My comment maybe should have come before you your last sentence. Chairperson Yes, I'm sorry.
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I was just trying to move it along so if you have a comment, please, please proceed.
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I'm looking at the list and if we limit the definition to only faculty I'm not sure we have anybody left.
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There's anyone try to filter the list and see how many only faculty are there on the list?
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I'm not looking at the list right now, but I'm trying to go through my, do you have the list up?
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So I'm afraid we may be 2, to 2 limiting if we.
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That's one.
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Okay. So Karen Kelly Blake is a faculty member who's serving. Kate Birdsall who's
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Well? President of the Union of 9 Tenure Track Faculty.
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I guess that's not an academic administrator position. That's someone who represents. Faculty though, correct.
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Right.
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The other list, the remainder of the list.
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Louisa Alonso Garcia
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I'm just going to the list before we recognize anyone. So people can get the names.
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Or in Weather Spoon.
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. Or
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And Winona Single.
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Alright. In order of, I saw a couple of hands raised. So do you want to grab a microphone?
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Kind of can read it in a reflection. Senator Ariel. Lessner Is right.
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This is Senator Ernie Flesner from Residential College in the Arts and Humanities. I think that it's important that we keep this to non dean faculty, but I also think that by doing so we are continuing to register our protest that out of a search committee of 29 people only 5 of them or 6 depending on how your counting are out of out of the faculty without wearing another hat.
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So. I would support any motion that makes that clarification clear that faculty means faculty without an administrative component.
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I'm especially after having seen last year through academic governments the numbers on former search committees where faculty were at minimum a preponderance and sometimes even a majority.
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Thank you. For those comments. Any any other comment?
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Senator Jessica.
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Yeah, just on my on the previous discussion so far this point here that you just, that I. Last made and I but you know, just to hang everything up, put everything on the shoulders of 5 faculty representatives.
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Is, you know, a lot in the, you know, this language right here reads more.
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It is a lot, you know, I don't know what to say about it exactly.
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It's a problem. And anything we can do. Yeah, I, you know, I, I agree with that.
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So. It's just a small number of people. Small N, so to speak.
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As I understand it, let me let me make sure I'm clear and Senator Mallow can correct me if I'm wrong.
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The reading of this is not that these individuals are choosing a president. It's just that if any of the candidates that move forward are, they may approve 10 candidates that any one candidate at the end that the trustees choose for they're the ones who are choosing the president.
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Should have had a majority endorsement. Of the faculty. And a majority endorsement of. The search committee itself.
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Suggesting that the the trustees take into consideration both. Both of those populations the will of the search committee and the will of the faculty.
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Such that if if they didn't and let's say all the faculty voted no But the search committee voted yes.
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That that says something about the choice. Of the qualifications of someone to move to the finalist round.
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More than the choice itself. If I'm reading it correctly. Is that correct? Senator Mallon?
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Yes, but I'm at a point given that it's difficult to interpret that, perhaps I could offer a amendment to strike that last paragraph.
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So strike it totally and remove that piece, not define the faculty.
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As non dean, which I believe was what. Senator. Ariel Lesnar was saying.
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You want to strike it.
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So someone has to propose an amendment if we're going to have an amendment. Unless no one hasn't.
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Can I post them? Can I propose them on my own? Movement.
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Good day. Yes.
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Okay, I propose that we an amendment to strike that last paragraph.
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Second.
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Alright. Discussion on the on the amendment. Anyone have any opinion on removing this?
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Yes, in the back.
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Please introduce yourself. Thank you. Thank you. I'm, Kristen Mates, arts and letters.
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Is this coming through? Give it a robust email. Alright. So.
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That I would have about removing that. Is then it basically takes the teeth away from the statement in my opinion because it doesn't give any clarification about how to measure whether the faculty have.
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Had any input. In the president, any meaningful input in the presidential search process. To the point of the example that you just gave.
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We could have a presidential search. Plus that and through which all the faculty. Members of the committee are opposed.
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And if we remove this final clause, then we're putting we're taking away our concern about faculty.
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Say in that process deferring to the search committee as a whole. So I. You know, process, removing this if we're going to move.
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Thank you. Senator D. Simone.
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Sorry, that was exactly my point. I think that the issue is that we need to emphasize that faculty input.
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Critical to this process. And I would be fearful. That then we would have.
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A board saying, well, the majority of the search committee. Supported this individual. Is there some way we could make it more forceful the last?
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Resolution. I'm torn about the Dean issue. Because surely There is a kind of input. That administrators have.
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That goes beyond us. Plain folk faculty. But we, we don't have many.
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So let's. Yeah.
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Faculty on the committee. So I'm a little bit ambivalent.
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So let's make sure we focus on the issue here. We are debating the amendment. And whether the amended striking the language or not.
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So let's focus our comments on whether to strike the language or not if there is a different amendment that's going to come forward say related to the wording of that.
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That will be, they'll be a little different. But I think. Yes, just to make sure we're keeping keeping.
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Oh, that has to be separate. Okay. Yeah, strike the amendment. As I mean.
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So you're not in favor of the amendment.
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Not, not in favor. Of striking the amendment.
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Want it back.
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Okay, I've gotta make sure do you Do you want? Do you want to adopt the amendment or do you want to reject the amendment?
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I do not want to strike the amendment. I want to put it back.
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You want to restore it to its original wording is what you're saying. Okay, so you want you're against the amendment itself.
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You are for the resolution. Yes, I think that's what you mean. Okay, just making sure I don't want to I don't want to put words in your mouth.
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Okay. Senator Jochi.
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I was, I mean, I'm opposed to deleting it, but at the same time as wondering if we should instead of the majority faculty on this presidential search committee would it be more powerful to make it as a majority of the faculty Senate because we are the faculty representatives.
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So would you rather make it that they would not select anybody who the Senate doesn't? Hold on.
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I guess the challenge there is that the Senate doesn't get to see the candidates who are who are being put forward as finalists.
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So. It's only the search committee. That that sees this since this is a closed search.
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Okay.
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So are you are you in favor of this amendment or you want to preserve the language?
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Want to preserve the language in that case. Yes.
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Okay. Are there any other? Any other discussion on this amendment? Yes.
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You grab the microphone and State your name for the crowd.
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Okay.
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Hello, my name is Elisa Nakim. Think that we should keep the resolve clause although I would say maybe changing the wording because I also think we should just maintain as potentially teaching staff you know that way whoever is in like the search committee and has those 2 hats unless they are currently.
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You know, actually teaching and having that experience. As a member of the, it kind of remediates that.
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I don't know, I feel like potential best of both worlds while still. Maintaining the result.
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So still just to remind everyone we are focusing on whether whether we are keeping this. We are removing this clause or not anything else regarding wording for for the clause itself if it is kept would have to happen separately.
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So right now, we're focusing on whether to delete this clause or not.
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Any other comments on? Thank you, though. For that opinion. But hold it.
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Any other discussion on, on this? If not, we will vote on the amendment. And whether we're going to retain or delete that.
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That that clause. So. The vote would be since it was a it was a resolution to remove.
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A yes vote would be. Would be to strike that that clause a no vote would be to maintain that clause in the in the resolution.
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That correct? All right. So remember, yes is to strike it out. No is to keep it.
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So are you gonna do a poll for those online?
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Okay. Not a roll call, just a general voice. Okay, so for those of you who can vote in the room.
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How many are voting yes? You want to declare as a voice vote? Yes.
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That would be to strike. Alright. Hearing none. But no.
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Pretty much all knows in the room.
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And we'll see what happens online.
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Very exciting. Wish I had some popcorn. I'd 7 nuts.
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Realized I'm not the host on that computer so I can't start a poll So, if maybe folks online who are in favor of removing it.
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If they want to raise their hands in the in Zoom.
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Remember this is in favor of removing the clause? That would be a yes.
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Alright, C 4. Alright, if you want to lower your hands. Those in favor of retaining it, which would be a no vote, please, please raise your hands.
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It looks like more than 4. Alright, so currently for the amendment is defeated and we are still with the original.
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Resolution.
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Is there any discussion on the resolution as it stands currently? Before we vote.
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We're excited. I like the tension. I see a lot of hands up. Hopefully those are all going down.
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Because we're now back to discussion of the original resolution. Less people are really keeping their hands up.
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So, Senator Bomer. Do you have a comment on the original resolution? No. Terry's iPhone.
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Do you have a comment on? Resolution.
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Apparently not. All right. Yes. Please introduce yourself again.
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Senator Ernie Flesner, our CAH. I would like to propose amendment an amendment to this last clause.
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That we put the words non-administrative faculty. Into that sentence. Or excuse me, faculty.
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Who do not have administrative appointments on the Presidential Search Committee. So that would be the language, Tyler.
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So as we let's work through the language so to get to the meaning that you want you're looking for someone who is.
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Not not appointed for their administrative role, perhaps as a faculty member. Correct. And I'm happy to hear.
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And and maybe discussion of that wording before it's proposed. Yeah. Senator Jeswick.
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People people had mentioned non dean faculty it's I see we have some center directors. What about the faculty representatives that would specify that their role on the committee is to represent the faculty.
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Alright, so chosen as faculty representatives. Is the
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The majority of those chosen as faculty representatives to the search committee. You can, Tyler is. Clacking away now.
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Majority of the of that clip you represent in front of those chosen as faculty. Representatives on the presidential search community.
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And the ones who were intended as faculty, essentially. Whatever wording works. That's the spirit in which I'm offering this.
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Whatever exact words get in there, that spirit.
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Senator Bird Saul, give a comment.
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I do. I would propose that we add faculty and academic staff representatives to be certain that we are including our specialists.
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Always an appropriate comment from you, Senator Birdsville. We can add that in, correct?
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Or would that would be in amendment. I'm just wondering if. That's in his in the spirit according to.
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Senator Ariel. If there's no objection to further amending the wording. To incorporate Senator Birdsall's.
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Pity edit.
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Excellent. Alright, so now. The, the amendment on, on the floor is. As amended the final clause.
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Now reads resolved that the trustees should not choose any president who did not receive the endorsement of a majority of those chosen as faculty and academic staff representatives on the Presidential Search Committee.
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Is there a second?
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Second.
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Second.
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Any discussion on the on the, edit? On this amendment. Senator Warden.
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Is there any potential ambiguity whether certain people on the committee meet this criterion?
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I, yeah, would you like to say something?
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So there's definitely potentially, ambiguity. I think it can be resolved. There are 5 more or less that were.
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Are either all They have no administrative. Appointment. They were one of the people on Faculty Senate or sorry, the Steering Committee's list of faculty that they dominated to the Presidential Search Committee.
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And so I think one was particularly put out in the chat. To the extent that there's confusion about whether that person counts, I think for these.
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Purposes probably the the number at least we've been understanding is 5.
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So the ones that we know that were chosen as faculty representatives. That's the spirit of the resolution.
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Is that answer your question, Senator Worden?
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Well, it does, but could an unfriendly person on the committee contest. What the assessment would be whether certain people would meet this criterion could this be controversial and create problems through that mechanism.
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Anyone have any comments on that?
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If there are no other concerns on that, we can vote on. On that.
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Go on.
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Question is, is it a associate chair represent administration? I would say that seems like it based on what we've been discussing if they were chosen because They are representing associate chairs.
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The no if they were chosen because they are a faculty representative. And that's how they were chosen, then yes, they are a faculty representative.
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Based upon the current discussion. If that's correct. Would you would you, characterize that as correct?
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Okay. Senator Tessmer.
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Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Chairperson. Do these individuals know under what category they were chosen?
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Were they part of a list that self-nominated? Or no. Somehow, they may not know.
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We can let them know, I guess, with the mailing, emailing them the resolution. And then they will know.
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Any other anyone else have any questions or comments?
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Alright, if there if there are no more comments then we are. We are voting on this amended.
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Clause, correct? Alright, so, all in favor of the. In the room Get a sign about.
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Alright, a lot of yeses. Nose. One now?
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Right? Looks like we have one now. And then let's see, yes is.
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Online. I think these are all yeses in favor of the amendment.
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You got those? Let me know when you want me to call for no.
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Yeah, please put your hands down the yeses.
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We still have 2 hands up. There we go, one hand up. Okay, now, anyone who is no on the amendment.
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Please raise your hand.
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Give it 5 s for people to vote now. If they have any. No. Alright, it seems like it's, mostly a yes there.
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Okay. Senator Oh no. I saw a hand go up and down. All right, so now we are back to the, to the main.
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Resolution. Is there any further discussion on the resolution at hand?
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If not. Let us vote. We can vote in the room and and online for yes. So all in favor raise your hands whether they are virtual or real.
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Got a good count in the room. Get a good can on line.
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Keep them open. Like nearly everyone. Alright. Okay, you can lower your hands We need to do a no vote for recording purposes.
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Okay, those those voting no? Please raise your hands.
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Okay. Okay. Resolution passes. Congratulations to the resolution writers.
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All right, let us move. I know we don't have much time. We are a little bit over, but we do have, an important, item left on the agenda.
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This is for creation of new departments in the College of Human Medicine. These are attachments A through G.
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There is an introductory, memorandum and then a description of each of the departments.
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These have gone through. The University Committee on Faculty Affairs, correct? Is that correct? Yes.
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That's correct.
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Okay. And UCG. So, I don't know if you have any comments, Chairperson Allen.
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Or the UCS chair.
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Yeah. I do not, but I move to.
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Any 1 s?
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To endorse one or all.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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2 indoors at all.
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Are you in Dorset? Okay. Endorsal. Then we have a second.
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Okay. Second.
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A couple of seconds. Thirds and fourths. All right. Any discussion on?
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On the approval of our endorsement of these departments.
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Yeah, oh, and, if anyone has any questions, the Dean of the College of Medicine, Aaron Seuss is here and is willing to answer any questions relating to.
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These units.
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Not seeing any hands. Alright, then. Let us let us vote on endorsement of the full package.
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Of all 6 departments. Or we can go with based on the fact that there's no discussion.
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Perhaps we just say if there aren't any objections. So if, are there any objections to to approving.
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These units are endorsing them.
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Hearing and seeing none. We will consider them endorsed.
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Alright, and then comments from the floor time. Anybody have any comments from the floor?
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I'm looking at the floor. Looking on Zoom.
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Doesn't look like it. Well, if we don't have any comments from the floor. If there is, if there are no objections, we can adjourn this meeting.
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All right. Thank you all very much. See you next time, online.
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